Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 6:11 am


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ftorres wrote:to be honest, SCANDAL has established quite well over the 4 years. is true that there are songs which fans do not like, but every criticism comes, they are gladly to accept that and that's what they are getting more and more popular over the years.

to me, SCANDAL has still retained the rock/pop style over the years. is just that some of the times they will introduce a different style of play to see whether the fans like it or not. and by far, the reaction is 50-50, in my opinion.

i do believe that is Sony rushing them far too much already. they were like "man, these girls are super good, if we wanna earn more money, let's promote them" such things. that's why we can see them producing 4 singles, 1 album and 1 mini-album. if i were to say they were manufactured, then is still Sony's fault.

that's how entertainment industries work. once enter, all you have to do is to work, work, and more work. geez.

well i wouldn't say it's purely sony's fault
i mean .sure i like them changing styles and keep releasing albums
but i think artists do have the right to say no if they think it's too much or they need a break?
i've seen some artists doing that and i don't see why SCANDAL couldn't
but oh well,i still like them no matter what


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:06 am


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They do have the say,like rock_chick said.To what extent,we don't know.They get to write the lyrics,that muc we know.They wrote some songs on their own from their younger days.That much we know.They want to challenge themselves to explore new genres in TempBox,that much we know.

But,is it really their idea to rehearse till 3am and wake up all eyebaggy for an interview the next morning?Is it really their idea to have a recording session the minute they touch down in Tokyo when they haven't had enough sleep?They may or may not want to go overseas again,but really,is that controlled by the management,which of course means Sony?

We can't know everything about what the girls want and what they do not want.We can only guess.We can hope that they are enjoying themselves in this job that they have.

And by the way,Sony is a music company and just like any other employer.If you force a break on them too often,of course they won't be pleased.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 7:57 am


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EugeneAng wrote:They do have the say,like rock_chick said.To what extent,we don't know.They get to write the lyrics,that muc we know.They wrote some songs on their own from their younger days.That much we know.They want to challenge themselves to explore new genres in TempBox,that much we know.

But,is it really their idea to rehearse till 3am and wake up all eyebaggy for an interview the next morning?Is it really their idea to have a recording session the minute they touch down in Tokyo when they haven't had enough sleep?They may or may not want to go overseas again,but really,is that controlled by the management,which of course means Sony?

We can't know everything about what the girls want and what they do not want.We can only guess.We can hope that they are enjoying themselves in this job that they have.

And by the way,Sony is a music company and just like any other employer.If you force a break on them too often,of course they won't be pleased.

I guess they knew and should have expected what they signed up for when they joined Sony

not surprising really, since every company wants to get the best out of their employees while they're still productive, and SCANDAL are currently being VERY productive.

But I doubt the girls are unhappy doing all this, you can tell that they really appreciate the fans, and all the support they get despite the tight schedules. In fact i think this is what drives them on. Anyway, having been with the girls since they started out, I'm sure Eisuke and the rest of the staff know whats best for them, and we can be assured that they're well taken care off.

I'm sure the girls know that this period is a crucial one for them, especially since their popularity is shooting skywards, so I guess they're definitely willing to put in the extra effort to try and become more successful. Its a competitive market out there


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:24 am


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EugeneAng wrote:They do have the say,like rock_chick said.To what extent,we don't know.They get to write the lyrics,that muc we know.They wrote some songs on their own from their younger days.That much we know.They want to challenge themselves to explore new genres in TempBox,that much we know.

But,is it really their idea to rehearse till 3am and wake up all eyebaggy for an interview the next morning?Is it really their idea to have a recording session the minute they touch down in Tokyo when they haven't had enough sleep?They may or may not want to go overseas again,but really,is that controlled by the management,which of course means Sony?

We can't know everything about what the girls want and what they do not want.We can only guess.We can hope that they are enjoying themselves in this job that they have.

And by the way,Sony is a music company and just like any other employer.If you force a break on them too often,of course they won't be pleased.

well yeah.but i guess rehearsing and interviews,every artists,especially those who just make it big,goes through that i believe. probably there are ones that are even worse than them. probably it's not right for sony to have them release so many singles at such a short time since they need a break too.but im pretty sure the girls are enjoying themselves through these processes,eventhough it is tiring. i guess they're happy to be releasing new stuffs for the fans to enjoy and performing?
but at times.i feel i can understand SONY isn't pushing the girls for no reason. so i'm not that pissed at them like most people are


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 12:04 pm


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rock_chick wrote:
EugeneAng wrote:They do have the say,like rock_chick said.To what extent,we don't know.They get to write the lyrics,that muc we know.They wrote some songs on their own from their younger days.That much we know.They want to challenge themselves to explore new genres in TempBox,that much we know.

But,is it really their idea to rehearse till 3am and wake up all eyebaggy for an interview the next morning?Is it really their idea to have a recording session the minute they touch down in Tokyo when they haven't had enough sleep?They may or may not want to go overseas again,but really,is that controlled by the management,which of course means Sony?

We can't know everything about what the girls want and what they do not want.We can only guess.We can hope that they are enjoying themselves in this job that they have.

And by the way,Sony is a music company and just like any other employer.If you force a break on them too often,of course they won't be pleased.

well yeah.but i guess rehearsing and interviews,every artists,especially those who just make it big,goes through that i believe. probably there are ones that are even worse than them. probably it's not right for sony to have them release so many singles at such a short time since they need a break too.but im pretty sure the girls are enjoying themselves through these processes,eventhough it is tiring. i guess they're happy to be releasing new stuffs for the fans to enjoy and performing?
but at times.i feel i can understand SONY isn't pushing the girls for no reason. so i'm not that pissed at them like most people are

Interesting points highlighted by me. TBH I agree with Eugene here, we just don't know whether or not the girls are enjoying the workload they are receiving. If you look at other artists in particular YUI... didn't she has a temporary hiatus/a short break from producing music for awhile and Sony allowed her to? I'm saying at some point, the girls are allowed to take breaks I think but perhaps they in it for the fans, the money, love of music or maybe all three? We just don't know the reason whether or not the girls are allowed to take breaks or not or at one point Sony asked them to take breaks and the girls refused? Sony allowed YUI a short break and her music sales are still selling very well. Same with rock_chick here, I'm not too pissed with them (Sony) just disappointed that they should perhaps tell them to take breaks instead of just suggesting to them they should do so.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:17 pm


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Wow, really impressed with the discussions here. Of course, all for the love of Scandal.

I'm a new fan, so I guess I cannot really say if they are becoming manufactured.

But the first song I heard was Shunkan Sentimental and I liked it, which led me to listen to their other earlier songs, such as Doll and Koi Moyou. And I like most of them.

Every song gives me a different feel and there are songs which I would repeat playing over some others.

I personally feel that a few songs that do not appear to 'match' their previous style would not matter, especially when they themselves have expressed that they want to continue to try out different genres. It is a learning process for them, which in due time, I hope will result in more music that will appeal to us and draw in new fans as well.


Of course, if what they have expressed is not a true account (maybe just some PR speech given by S**y), than I can only hope for the best for them. Please

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:59 am


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I can't really agree. The only main difference is that they're now on a major label which of course means they have more experience and money in the marketing department. Of course this also means new song writers.

Also, you can't really complain about the synth in Yumemiru Tusbasa when it's in records like Kagerou too. And on the garage argument, tracks like Koshi-tantan fit that category quite well.

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Fri Jul 08, 2011 6:15 am


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chiy102 wrote:Wow, really impressed with the discussions here. Of course, all for the love of Scandal.

I'm a new fan, so I guess I cannot really say if they are becoming manufactured.

But the first song I heard was Shunkan Sentimental and I liked it, which led me to listen to their other earlier songs, such as Doll and Koi Moyou. And I like most of them.

Every song gives me a different feel and there are songs which I would repeat playing over some others.

I personally feel that a few songs that do not appear to 'match' their previous style would not matter, especially when they themselves have expressed that they want to continue to try out different genres. It is a learning process for them, which in due time, I hope will result in more music that will appeal to us and draw in new fans as well.


Of course, if what they have expressed is not a true account (maybe just some PR speech given by S**y), than I can only hope for the best for them. Please

I agree with that last statement, Sony does want to put the quartet over with fans considering their uniqueness in terms of image and commercial viability which makes a hot commodity on the J-music scene. However, I feel as if Sony's more interested in promoting them more as an idol band than a legitimate rock band and helluva live act which is what they truly are. In short, Sony's like a corporate vamipre sucking the life out of 4 talented girls and processing them into a soulless idol-rock outfit in the years to come Nervous


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Mon Dec 05, 2011 12:27 pm


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porcupine_tree wrote:
chiy102 wrote:Wow, really impressed with the discussions here. Of course, all for the love of Scandal.

I'm a new fan, so I guess I cannot really say if they are becoming manufactured.

But the first song I heard was Shunkan Sentimental and I liked it, which led me to listen to their other earlier songs, such as Doll and Koi Moyou. And I like most of them.

Every song gives me a different feel and there are songs which I would repeat playing over some others.

I personally feel that a few songs that do not appear to 'match' their previous style would not matter, especially when they themselves have expressed that they want to continue to try out different genres. It is a learning process for them, which in due time, I hope will result in more music that will appeal to us and draw in new fans as well.


Of course, if what they have expressed is not a true account (maybe just some PR speech given by S**y), than I can only hope for the best for them.

I agree with that last statement, Sony does want to put the quartet over with fans considering their uniqueness in terms of image and commercial viability which makes a hot commodity on the J-music scene. However, I feel as if Sony's more interested in promoting them more as an idol band than a legitimate rock band and helluva live act which is what they truly are. In short, Sony's like a corporate vamipre sucking the life out of 4 talented girls and processing them into a soulless idol-rock outfit in the years to come


My Friends said your exact words and as a fan I hope that doesn't happen, if it is already, SCANDAL should really consider their future despite the suppose higher income they receive. I guess thats the reward you get for being good looking and talented in Japan, companies don't don't value you but see you as a big cash in.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 3:56 pm


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From what i notice now, yes. Dont want to explain but when i first saw this topic last yr i didnt want to accept it or i was avoiding to think about them being manufactured 'cos i thought they're different and that their image is like something rare but now the case is different


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:12 pm


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I think I may have posted in this thread before but I have a few more cents to add.

Manufactured? Hardly. From what I've read from their blogs and articles and the like, they have quite a lot of involvement in their process, their image, their music etc so to imply that their record company is shoving everything down the throats of four helpless girls is far too simplistic for me to digest.

Epic records do not OWN SCANDAL. The girls have a separate management team, some of whom have been with them since their before KITTY record days. Therefore, if their label wants them to do something, they have every right to negotiate and even say no.

We blame the record label for everything we don't like but here's the big question:-

What IF the direction that they are taking now is EXACTLY what the girls want? It's possible. Consider their influences and the music and the artists they themselves listen to. Their influences will have an effect on their sound.

To be fair, we don't know how control is divided between the girls, their team and their label.

As for them being an idol band, well, they ARE and have been ever since BEST SCANDAL. Hence the visual gimmick (uniforms) and the bright shiny pop rock. It doesn't hurt that they can actually PLAY but to me a big part of why SCANDAL is so successful when compared to their peers (Stepo, FLiP etc) is their charisma. It's the whole package, visuals, looks, everything. That charisma is what drew me in and I'm sure for a lot of other fans as well.

If the girls stopped working this angle and concentrate on just playing they would lose a big part of what makes SCANDAL SCANDAL. Without the costumes, the gimmicks, the slick production SCANDAL would be NO different from the countless bands out there. It's what makes them stand out. It proves that a band can LOOK awesome and PLAY awesome as well. The two need not be mutually exclusive.

Being a good idol band isn't a bad thing as long as the band is still there.

I've seen them play live and their band spirit and attitude is still there idol or not. The girls LOVE to play and under all that makeup, costumes etc is a damn good band which I am really proud to be associated with.

As long as this attitude remains, I can't consider them to be "manufactured". Manufactured implies no input from the artist and from where I'm sitting, they seem to have plenty of say.

Here endeth the somewhat obnoxious long winded opinionating. And because it's just my opinion, I could be completely wrong

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 5:37 pm


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As usual you said a lot of good sense !
I also do not think SCANDAL are a manufactured band in any way.
Someone like AKB have almost zero input into their music and PV's but I also think SCANDAL have a lot and I also feel they are doing what they want to do.

There is no idol band that plays instruments so why not be an idol band ?
Like you say there are many talented Japanese girl bands but it is their character as well as their talent that we love about SCANDAL and I agree that it is obvious that they enjoy what they are doing.
So long may they do so !


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 6:52 pm


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I think u have a point there,, and to me agreeing theyre manufactured is that because i think their company wants them to compete with the kpop invasion(y am i thinking this?lol) its possible but only with the image though. Take the pride single for example, they suddenly have a legs-showing i think this came up when snsd debuted in japan and theyre famous for their legs there(kinda hate this though, dnt like them to be only known with for having nice legs) and then suddenly i get this idol vibe but at least they can throw it off with their lives


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 7:12 pm


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I will admit that alot of their new songs have more added sound effects to make the song sound a bit more Pop a little bit. The best example of this is LOVE SURVIVE. If you listen to the CD version of the song, the added sound pretty much dominates the girls playing, but in the live version, you can really hear the rock sound that the song is supposed to have. Their recorded songs may be slowly getting taken over by added sound, but at heart their playing is still very rock n roll.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 8:34 pm


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I haven't read the entire thread but I get the gist of it. My 2 cents:

First, as someone who was actually in a pretty serious band for a while when I was a bit younger, I think you have to put aside what your idea of a band actually is if you're a particularly idealistic type. Once a band has a record deal, that band is never just 4 or 5 people making music and then other people just working for them to help promote that music. No, this is a business, and there's a lot of money involved and people's jobs on the line. They would never leave it up to those 4 or 5 people to determine who gets to eat and who's out of a job. That's true with any band, and in any part of the world. Every major decision is *at best* a collaborative effort, if not completely out of the band's hands. That said, I do not believe for a second that the girls ever do anything against their will. That includes all the costumes, fan service and whatever else.

So to that extent, *every* band you've actually heard of is "manufactured", at least when they're young and relying on money provided by others to finance various things. When I was younger I had a lot of idealistic friends who became very disillusioned when they started learning this, but it's just how it is.

Young bands are basically employees of the record label. That is even more true in Japan than elsewhere, from what I've seen, and with Japan's patriarchal society, it's still even more true of female bands. Not many female bands even write their own music, and Scandal doesn't either. They play what they are told to play.

As for how Scandal started out, there are always these concocted stories in Japan that nobody really believes. In Scandal's case, it's always been part of their image that they just formed organically. But you can kind of read between the lines and see that they proobably didn't. Supposedly their music teacher "suggested" to each one of them individually that they should form a band together. This despite the fact that none of them played instruments or had any real experience with music. I can almost guarantee that somebody from Sony (even back then) had the bright idea to go to a dance school and make a deal to find some cute girls with sexy moves that they could turn into an idol band. And if it worked, they'd sign them to Sony. And it worked. It was genius, really.

This is not to take anything away from Scandal - I love them! I love them individually and as a band. And I respect their playing skills. But I think you just have to realize that "Scandal" is more than just the four of them, and it always has been and always will be. They are just the public face of everything you know as Scandal.

In short, I think people just need to accept Scandal for what they are, rather than trying to imagine them as some sort of super-serious rock band. They didn't start out that way and they aren't that way now.

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Wed Jun 13, 2012 9:22 pm


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In my opinion, I can't really agree with this. Scandal is Scandal, and what matters is that, I feel, that they put all their love into the songs. Ofc maybe, sometimes, one doesn't really like the song, but I think its doubtful.

We can forget, this is a girls band, even tough its rock related, they will always have sentimental songs, that sounds better with some Synth, like Yumemiru Tsubasa, but now that's not their fault. Maybe its given an opinion after recording the song, and changes are done.

I don't want to offend anybody, but if you look to AKB48 or Girl's Generation, in terms of music, I think Scandal is way above, because they combine lyrics, instruments and dance. Let's not forget that they were in dance school..

So, I can say this, they'll have diferents types of songs, well, look at "Tokyo Skyscrapper" and "One Piece" completly diferent, yet so awesome. Ofc "tokyo Skys.." has synth, but its their try on Disco song. But if you want rock, they'll always Have it "Hi-hi-hi", "Scandal Nanka Butobase", "Love Survive" and the list continue.

Do not loose your faith in them just because of 1 song.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:25 am


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To those that made points in their arguments, i salute you.

And to those whose arguments are saying that there is nothing wrong, i salute you even more.

Scandal is playing their own music, their style, and best of all each of their song lyrics are by them. so it doesn't matter if they look flashy or have large use of sound effects for their songs. Being able to use their own lyrics is good enough especially from the fact that most are simply singing lyrics from somewhere else. Creative control is the most shittiest thing but in fact, they have quite alot already. Accept the fact that Epic Records and their creative team wish to do what seems right

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 3:03 am


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To all of you who stated their thoughts, bravo. If i could give you guys trophies i would...but that would cost a lot. LoL! ^_^

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:24 am


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I heard that the best way to succeed in the music industry is to stay with the "current sound". In many places, the current sound is mostly electronic stuff. Around the world, many popular songs have some kind of electronic sound in it, whether its rock, pop, or whatever.
Bands basically start for a selfish reason: they want to make music for their own enjoyment and gather fans in the process.
Sometimes, when bands sign on to labels, their labels and record companies expect them to be able to sell a certain amount of music and be successful. Other labels and companies are a little more leaned-back and allow musicians to have some amount of freedom.
Some bands get to the point where they feel like the companies are taking over their music and they will usually stop playing music or find other companies.
Anyway, as long as SCANDAL keeps making music, I will be ok.
Maybe when SCANDAL gains more fans, they will start making music that sounds like their older stuff, and help the newer fans to like their older style of music.


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:58 am


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Eto...let me think on what to say!
At first, I thought they were forced to change from the begining. Love Survive PV, where they kind of say good-bye to their uniform, was really sad, for what I understood. I got tears in my eyes, what is kind of strange for a upbeat song as Love Survive is.
I shared my thoughts with someone and I got the sam reactions, but I don't know what you guys think.
Also, I know a band/singer never stays the same as when they were starting, comparing for example, YUI's It's Happy Line with Hello~Paradise Kiss~ is a BIG difference, not even talking about comparing Albums.
Everyone is bound to change sometime, as the time goes by, and SCANDAL is no different (even if it looks a little forced)
Of course, maybe they'll lose some fans because of this but, remember that this last single wasn't writen by them. Maybe we should wait for the next album before criticize even further.
Also, the girls remain the same, I think. That's the main thing that I hope it'll never change. If the girls are the same, even if the music change, they'll still reach our hearts UHUH!
That's what I think...hope it's not to big Wew


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:21 pm


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This thread was made before I even knew about SCANDAL, so I couldn't say if they changed or not. Sure, they are most likely manufactured in some ways with (as far as I've gathered from people here) them not making too many of their own songs. Just watching their PVs from before compared too now, there is a change to be seen. However, to me it all still feels like the same band. I prefer their image more in something like Nanka Buttobase over their most recent Taiyo SCANDALOUS but because of the music I think they still feel like the same band.

A band has to evolve though. SCANDAL members is getting older, they can't stay making high school songs in uniform. As long as I feel like the SCANDAL members are proud of the music they play, I'm on board. When I like some public person like an actor/actress or a band it usually takes alot for me to just give up on them and say "I don't like you anymore".

Mirytie wrote:
Also, the girls remain the same, I think. That's
the main thing that I hope it'll never change. If the girls are the
same, even if the music change, they'll still reach our hearts
That's what I think...hope it's not to big

So, I agree with this alot. As long as they don't change who they are I'll still be a fan, even if their music and image gets warped beyond recognition.

All that said, the Japanese music industri is a wierd one. And SCANDAL could most likely be signed to a better company than Epic Records (Sony). They are all about making money, and worse they feel no shame about it.

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:44 pm


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Wow!. Nice opinion guys!. Those are really deep and nicely stated!..I've enjoyed reading them.

About the topic, all I could say is that, I don't think that they were manufactured. In the past, most of the songs were written by Timo, but now, HaRiMa were also writing too. Remember Haru's Love Survive? She is a fan of Koreans and that maybe affected the way she wrote her songs making it more of a Pop sound. Another one would be Rina's Emotion. I've read from one her blogs that she loves how raw they sounds when they are playing. And so, to show this rawness, Emotion is born!..Of all four of them, I've find her as the most emotional one. To correlate this to the ones she wrote, Burn and One Piece is the outcome. Timo is the type of person that is fun to be with. Whenever I listen to her compositions, it sounds happy and with a lot of energy!. Taikimi would be a good example. About Mami, the only song that I know she wrote is Glamorous Sky. Hmm, she is still a mystery to me. Aha, I only know about her is that she's a fan of idols, mangas, animes and the partner-in-crime of Timo. They were different individuals with different preferences but still they enjoyed playing each others songs. Which made them great.

The fact that in the past, they sounded more rock than now is that maybe because of the image that they were thinking of how a rock band must look and sound. They were only 16-17 y/o by that time and their horizon about music might be limited, including the fact that they've started not knowing any instruments to play. By now, I think they were already defining what SCANDAL really means and how they would go on after removing their uniforms in their image. They were a lot more knowledgeable about the type of music they like now and as the others say, they were getting older.

With all the changes they've gone through, I could still feel the SCANDAL that made me love them.

(Sorry about the long entry. I'm having a flight of ideas right now after reading the posts. Ehe )


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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 5:11 pm


ハナビラ~

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gaLa_LiannE08 wrote:Wow!. Nice opinion guys!. Those are really deep and nicely stated!..I've enjoyed reading them.

About the topic, all I could say is that, I don't think that they were manufactured. In the past, most of the songs were written by Timo, but now, HaRiMa were also writing too. Remember Haru's Love Survive? She is a fan of Koreans and that maybe affected the way she wrote her songs making it more of a Pop sound. Another one would be Rina's Emotion. I've read from one her blogs that she loves how raw they sounds when they are playing. And so, to show this rawness, Emotion is born!..Of all four of them, I've find her as the most emotional one. To correlate this to the ones she wrote, Burn and One Piece is the outcome. Timo is the type of person that is fun to be with. Whenever I listen to her compositions, it sounds happy and with a lot of energy!. Taikimi would be a good example. About Mami, the only song that I know she wrote is Glamorous Sky. Hmm, she is still a mystery to me. Aha, I only know about her is that she's a fan of idols, mangas, animes and the partner-in-crime of Timo. They were different individuals with different preferences but still they enjoyed playing each others songs. Which made them great.

The fact that in the past, they sounded more rock than now is that maybe because of the image that they were thinking of how a rock band must look and sound. They were only 16-17 y/o by that time and their horizon about music might be limited, including the fact that they've started not knowing any instruments to play. By now, I think they were already defining what SCANDAL really means and how they would go on after removing their uniforms in their image. They were a lot more knowledgeable about the type of music they like now and as the others say, they were getting older.

With all the changes they've gone through, I could still feel the SCANDAL that made me love them.

(Sorry about the long entry. I'm having a flight of ideas right now after reading the posts. Ehe )
Well, they really do write the most lyrics of their songs, but they don't compose much.
The only songs they also composed themselves are Emotion, hikare, want you and very special. Maybe I forgot one, but the point is the sound of their songs is mostly not by them. Of course they bring in their own ideas too I guess, but I think you get what I mean.

Ok now my opinion to that topic,
I think it's natural that they have a different sound/image whatever than before, they will keep doing different stuff than before, but that's good. Every band/artist needs to evolve.
Of course the label wants them to sell good, so they can't have totally freedom. I don't think there that much more manufactured than before, they were always a bit idol like. But that's a good thing, because there isn't anything like Scandal, so that will get them more attention.
I see still the same girls as when I started to listen to them 2009. And that's what I think is the most important about it. The changes won't stop, but as long as I can enjoy the music and they love what they do, I'll listen to them and support them.

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:13 pm


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yoshinator54 wrote:Bands basically start for a selfish reason: they want to make music for their own enjoyment and gather fans in the process.

Bands start for different reasons. In Scandal's case, these weren't girls who all played instruments and were really into heavy rock who all met and said "hey, let's have a band". They were in dance school, learning to be dancers, and somebody they were acquainted with through the school suggested they make a band. So, it was never entirely their idea right from the start. (Not surprisingly, this was almost right after the movie "Linda Linda Linda" came out - Google it!) So you have to look at what their motivations might have been for agreeing to do it. There is definitely a lot more to their backstory than what's been published officially - there almost always is, for Japanese bands especially.

I think behind a thread like this, there is an idealistic desire for some sort of musical "purity". But what does that mean? Look at a band like the S*x Pistols (funny that I can't write their name here!). Along with the Ramones, they basically spawned the entire punk movement. They influenced an entire generation of British bands and did something that sounded entirely new at that time, with a new attitude.

They also happened to be completely, utterly manufactured. They were as intentionally put together as AKB48, and they were actively "produced" by Malcolm McLaren and his company during their entire career. So what? Does that matter? Does that change their legacy? And did that actually hurt them, or did it help them?

I think as long as Scandal don't turn into some sort of electro pop band, they'll be fine. (Except they already sort of did that for Shoujo M!) I just don't really think they're any more or less manufactured now than ever. Their music may have been a little different a few years ago, but that doesn't mean they played what they wanted back then and they don't now. It means that what the record labels wanted from them may have changed a little bit in that time, and maybe their own tastes have changed a little too. But it's not like they have less freedom now than they ever did.

I also don't feel like they're really majorly into heavy rock anyway themselves... I know some of the artists they listen to and some of them are pretty surprising, just regular pop stars. And the fashion they wear on their off days is just regular pop fashion, not rock fashion. So it's just as likely that their heavier stuff was more "manufactured"!

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Re: SCANDAL Becoming too manufactured?
Posted on Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:20 pm


Reachie

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@spacecadet

You said, that they never played what they wanted to play,they just play what they are told to play? In the same time you said they probably don't do anything against their will. Doesn't this kind of contradict in a way?

I just find it hard to believe, that they have no say in what they want to play O_O


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